OSS is Out to End the Framework Wars—Jamstack Conf 2022
Ryan Carniato (SolidJS), Fred K. Schott (Astro), Zach Leatherman (11ty), Jessica Janiuk (Angular), Alexandre Chopin (Nuxt), Sara Vieira (Axo) The guiding principle of open source has always been that sharing our knowledge makes us all stronger. However, to look at the dogmatic behavior surrounding some frameworks, it’s hard to spot that principle in action these days. Fortunately, a new cohort of frameworks is emerging that’s fully embracing collaboration, shared credit, and cooperation. In this panel, we’ll hear from the people building these frameworks and learn how we’re getting better software by working together instead of trying to “win.”
Post-conference Thoughts
One post-JamstackConf thought I wish I had communicated better on the frameworks panel:
The web will be better served by a broader plurality of successful frameworks: Lit, Qwik, Solid, Astro, Svelte, Marko, Eleventy, and the one y’all are dreaming up now!
The post-React world is here, it just needs your help to be evenly distributed 🏆
(First posted on Mastodon November 9, 2022)
Collected Media
- On
thenewstack.io
: Jamstack Panel: Multiple JavaScript Frameworks Are a Good Thing by Loraine Lawson- and the same on a Tweet from
@thenewstack
- and the same on a Tweet from
- A tweet from
@patak_dev
: “The @jamstackconf’s OSS Is Out to End the Frameworks Wars panel was heart-warming. As @biilmann said, it was great to set the right tone. The Web is better if we collaborate, exchange ideas, and explore different tradeoffs. Look at that smiles!” - A tweet from
@MuxHQ
: “Anything else? @zachleat yells “web components” right before walking off stage 🧡🧡” - On
redmonk.com
: Jamstack Conf 2022: Armistice Day for the Framework Wars
20 Comments
Daniel Saunders
@zachleat 🙌
Ondřej Pokorný
@zachleat "Retweets" deserve a rename, though. :)
Zach Leatherman :11ty:
@ondra fair!
Roni Laukkarinen :verified:
@zachleat Thanks for the tip! Will definitely try it out.
Raymond Camden
@zachleat dumb q - do I need to do something in brid.gy to 'pick up' mentions on Mastodon? It's been a while since I added it to my blog. It picks up bird app just fine.
Zach Leatherman :11ty:
@rolle for the record I had already configured bridgy and was using it for tweets on my site—so if you haven’t already done that it might be a bit more complex!
Zach Leatherman :11ty:
@raymondcamden yeah I had to click through the mastodon wizard on brid.gy first!
Zach Leatherman :11ty:
@ondra (it is done 🙌🏻)
Sia Karamalegos
@raymondcamden @zachleat for me, I only had to click the mastodon button to do the auth and then they just started working
Stuart Langridge
@zachleat yeah, brid.gy is great. It's an unsung hero joining a load of dots. I'm well pleased that it's propping up my webmentions. I need to work out whether it's handling Mastodon the same way, which I suspect it isn't because of the lack of search
Raymond Camden
@sia @zachleat i've not been to brid.gy in a while, im logged in now... i think - but dont see a place to enable mastodon
Zach Leatherman :11ty:
@sil I had to verify it first on brid.gy, fwiw
Zach Leatherman :11ty:
@raymondcamden @sia https://brid.gy has a mastodon button on the home page Bridgy
Raymond Camden
@zachleat i think i got it... i think. thank you (and @sia )
Sia Karamalegos
@raymondcamden @zachleat
Sia Karamalegos
@zachleat jinx!
Ondřej Pokorný
@zachleat Perfect!
Keith J Grant
@raymondcamden @sia @zachleat brid.gy could use a little UI love, honestly 😅
Zach Leatherman :11ty:
@keithjgrant @raymondcamden @sia Keith this sounds like you are volunteering, should I pass your name along 😅
Keith J Grant
@zachleat @raymondcamden @sia I mean I *could*, or I could try to get Omnibear back in the FF add-ons store. You ask the indieweb folks what the want more 😉